Great buying opportunity

The fear of credit crisis has them throwing stocks out like toilet paper. Mosaic fell 40% the other day-it now has a P/E ratio of 4. Same holds for pretty much the coal sector (ACI, BTU, MEE, CNX) and the iron ore sector (RTP, CLF, FMG.AX) They large miners (RTP, BHP) are down to P/E's of 8-10, with their stocks trading at half their highs. Energy stocks (XLE) are down also to the same P/E's.

Do you think that even if the banking industry of the USA was to totally disappear-that these companies mentioned above will stop selling their extremely useful products? Maybe people will resort to a barter system-exchanging oil for software-but the world will go on. That the financial crisis can cause a long term downturn in the US economy is absolutely false-a fall in the economy for a couple of quarters, as happened in Argentina, or in Korea and South Asia in the Asian crisis of 1998, can happen. But long term-financial crisis DO NOT have the ability to take down the whole economy. Of course the merchants of that sector (banks) will tell you to believe otherwise.

If you witnessed the crisis in Argentina-you saw the big down on that market-eventually for it to rally back up. Goverments come and ago, but companies stay. The stock market stays. The world economy and the US ecoonomy is much larger than the US financial sector, and life goes on.

Buy on margin and in a couple of years from now these prices will look like the sale of a lifetime.

Sanjay

S&P downgrades-confusing cause and effect

The S&P (Standard and Poor) analysts are another bunch who always confuse the cause with the effect.
They downgraded (or are threatening to downgrade) Lehman and AIG last week. See stories here and here.

In both cases they are saying the reason for the downgrade is the low share price and the increasing credit spreads on the companies' bonds making it difficult for them to raise capital.

The cause is said to be the low share price and the increasing credit spread. The effect is supposedly the increased difficulty to get more funds and capital.

This is misplaced causality.

The stock price is down (and credit spreads are up) because investors see fundamental problems for these companies. The fundamental problems (mortgage loans, real estate investments, Alt-A loans) are also the reason why capital raises for these companies are difficult.

Weakening of share price, increase in credit spreads, and difficulty to raise capital-all are effects of fundamentals problems with these companies. The S&P guys are attributing an effect as the cause of another effect....go figure.

A weak share price for a good business (fundamentally good business) makes it easier for the company to raise capital, because an investor would love to loan money to a thriving business whose share price has been pushed down artificially for some reason. In the present market-coal, fertilizer, iron-ore, copper, and oil stocks are good examples of this-I have been adding to them in this massive sell-off. A good way to play them all is buying BHP and RTP-u get to play the whole commodities sector in a way.

But these analysts of S&P amused me.


Sanjay

A word on Fannie and Freddie Mac

Just a quick note on Freddie and Fannie. That there are people who think there's an "implicit" guarantee by the US Government on those bonds-they are wrong.
There's no such thing as an implicit guarantee. It is a guarantee, or not. And no matter what the Government says-e.g. by the announcement yesterday of helping Fannie and Freddie-they have not guaranteed those bonds.
Sanjay